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-====== Tait TM8200 Series ======
-The Tait TM8XXX series are “PMR” radios that have become popular with Amateurs due to their excellent performance, modern architecture and flexibility. The TM8200 series support MPT-1327 trunking* and were often used by large organisations (Notably London Buses until a few years ago). They come up less frequently than their TM8100 counterparts, presumably due to stricter disposal practices - but they do come up now and again and can be programmed with conventional FM channels with all the benefits and features of the TM8100s.
-* with the exception of the TM8250 for reasons unknown
-====== Images ======
-TODO: Images
-====== Models ======
-The TM8200 range consists of several models listed below
-| **Model** | **Notes** |
-| TM8235 | 100 Conventional Channels, 4 MPT Networks, Standard Display Head |
-| TM8250 | 1500 Conventional Channels, Graphical Display Head|
-| TM8255 | 1500 Conventional Channels, 4 MPT Networks, Graphical Display Head |
-| TM8252 | 1500 Conventional Channels, 4 MPT Networks, No Display Head (RJ45 Only) |
-They are available in the following frequencies. The radio identification or frequency range can usually be found on a sticker on the base of the radio. Watch out for the C0 "Band 3" models which are outside of the amateur bands.
-| **Identification** | **Frequency (MHz)** |
-| A4 | 66-88 |
-| B1 | 136-174 |
-| C0 | 174-225 |
-| D1 | 216-266 |
-| G2 | 350-400 |
-| H5 | 400-470 |
-| H6 | 450-530 |
-| H7 | 450-520 |
-| K5 | 762-870 (Tx) 762-776 and 850-870 (Rx) |
-====== Power Requirements ======
-The radio will operate on 10.8V to 16V and RF power output is stable down to 12v.
-The table below shows the relationship between RF output and DC power in. Note it may not be entirely accurate, but should be good enough.
-| **Watts Out** | **Amps In** |
-| 1 | 1 |
-| 5 | 1.5 |
-| 12 | 2.5 |
-| 25 | 3.5 |
-TODO: Check idle power
-TODO: Confirm still valid for 8200
-TODO: VHF / UHF?
-===== Pinout =====
-The 25 watt TM8200s use a Molex Mini-Fit Jr connector. Replacements are available on eBay, or if you wish to make your own the housing is part number 39-01-4040 and the pins are 39-00-0078.
-The pinout is as follows:
-{{:radios:tait_tm8100_power.jpg?direct&600|}}
-====== Auxiliary Connector Pinout ======
-The simplified pinout:
-| **Pin** | **Use** | **NinoTNC pin** |
-| 7   | Transmit Audio (Input) | 1  |
-| 12  | PTT | 3  |
-| 13  | Receive Audio (Output) | 5  |
-| 15  | GND | 6  |
-The full pinout:
-{{:radios:tait_tm8100_aux_connector.jpg?direct&600|}}
-====== Programming ======
-===== Cable =====
-It was previously understood that the TM8XXX series required inverted 3.3v serial in order to program them, however the "Computer-Controlled Data Interface (CCDI) Protocol Manual" shows that the serial Rx line is RS232 level compatible. A tear down of a commercially sold programming cable also revealed a MAX232 type chip, confirming the radios can tolerate high levels than 3.3v. This means that instead of trying to find an invertable, 3.3v serial adapter, you can just adapt an RS232 cable to the pinout of the radio assuming it'll work with receiving the lower voltages. Fortunately Most modern USB to RS232 adapters will work fine.
-{{:radios:tait_tm8100_logic_level.jpg?direct&400|}}
-==== Pinouts ====
-The pinout to program the radio via the RJ45 connector on the front of a TM82XX can be found below:
-{{:radios:tait_tm8100_rj45.jpg?direct&400|}}
-===== 2E0SIPs Random Notes =====
-**WIP as I go along. Ignore**
-  * Latest calibration software is v4.09.00
-  * F/W v6.02.00.0001 enforces "FCC Narrow Banding" which requires a Software Key to use channels wider than 12.5kHz, which we don't want. Note that the latest f/w available from the Tait groups.io page is v6.02.00.0002 but the filename is truncated, so avoid it. Instead go for V-6.01.00.
-  * A TM8100 head seems to work on a TM8200 body
-  * A "Standard" TM8235 head kind of works on a TM8100 body. The buttons and display work, but the backlight and the status LEDs don't work, and there is some strange flickering behaviour. It's not clear if this could potentially damage something, so might be best avoided.
-  * A "Standard" TM8235 head seems to work fine on a TM8200 body after being swapped with a High-Tier graphical display head.
-  *  "TM8200 bodies and High-Tier heads must both have matching Firmware versions in order to operate correctly when assembled" If they don't, the screen will display "Firmware mismatch" or words to that affect. If you try to upgrade the firmware whilst in this state the programming software will time out. The trick is power off the radio (fully, not via the control head) kick off the firmware download process and then power up the radio after 3 seconds. This might take a couple of goes, but the radio should then start to upgrade the firmware
-  * Radio body "Radio Application" files seem to be prefixed with QMA, for the control head its QCA.