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member-projects:tait-cross-band-repeater [2025/08/02 17:50] – [EMF Calculations] m0ltemember-projects:tait-cross-band-repeater [2025/08/09 21:35] (current) – [Cable] m0lte
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 +In the official cable there is a board. Most of it can be ignored, however both the audio lines are connected to ground via 600 ohms, and have 4.7uF inline. During the event I did not have this cable, and I found I was transmitting distored audio - I suspect omitting the resistors and maybe the DC blocking capacitors was responsible for this. So I recommend adding at least the resistors.
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 +Board- important bits highlighted.
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 +{{:member-projects:tait-8000-crossband-cable.png?900|}}
  
 ===== Settings ===== ===== Settings =====
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 There are a bunch of settings you can tweak to reduce the turnaround time, including: There are a bunch of settings you can tweak to reduce the turnaround time, including:
  
-PTT debounce time (default 10ms) +  * PTT debounce time (default 10ms) 
-Lead-out delay +  Lead-out delay 
 +  * others... need to look up
 ===== Antenna System ===== ===== Antenna System =====
  
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   25W = 44dBm   25W = 44dBm
   44dBm (transmitted power level) - 60dB (isolation) = -16dBm   44dBm (transmitted power level) - 60dB (isolation) = -16dBm
 +  -16dBm = 0.0000251189W = 0.0251189 mW
  
-The Tait TM8100 specification manual states "no degradation after 5 minutes exposure to on-channel signals at + 27 dBm (2.2 V)" - we are 43dBm clear of this so we are a very long way from damaging the receiver. -16dBm is a pretty strong signal (-93dBm is considered 5/9 at VHF and above, so this is "77dB over 5/9") but the Tait filtering and receivers seem excellent and don't appear to be desensitised.+Pretty low for a transmitted signal, but pretty high at a receiver input. 
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 +The risks are: 
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 +  * densensitisation (receiver is temporarily deafened by a nearby transmitter) 
 +  * damage (receiver is permanently damaged by much higher signal voltage than the circuitry can withstand) 
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 +The Tait TM8100 specification manual states "no degradation after 5 minutes exposure to on-channel signals at + 27 dBm (2.2 V)" - we are 43dBm clear of this so we are a very long way from damaging the receiver.  
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 +However -16dBm is a pretty strong signal (-93dBm is considered 5/9 at VHF and above, so this is "77dB over 5/9") but the Tait filtering and receivers seem excellent and don't appear to be desensitised in practice.
  
 ===== EMF Calculations ===== ===== EMF Calculations =====
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   * Information: https://rsgb.org/main/technical/emc/emf-exposure/   * Information: https://rsgb.org/main/technical/emc/emf-exposure/
   * Calculator: https://rsgb.org/emfcalculator   * Calculator: https://rsgb.org/emfcalculator
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 +===== Physical layout =====
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 +I recommend rigidly attaching the two radios to each other and to a baseboard - this can be cheaply achieved using "all round band" - the 12mm stuff has perfect hole spacing for the Tait side threads.
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